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Last updated at 9:09 AM on 11/04/09  

Bous may be booted from WCSHL over decision to use Mile One print this article
Robin Short
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We're hearing the reigning Herder Memorial Trophy champion Clarenville Caribous will have a job defending their Newfoundland senior hockey championship next season.

And no, not because the lousy economy's eating into what some contend is a rather handsome payroll.

Nope, it appears the boys who run the West Coast Senior Hockey League, of which the Caribous are currently a member, aren't real happy with the Clarenville entry.

Now that's nothing new. Neither Corner Brook nor Deer Lake has been exactly thrilled will having to drive to Clarenville every couple of weekends, and Grand Falls-Windsor would take a pass, too.

No, what's ticked off the west lately is Clarenville's decision to play its 'home' games in the '09 Herder final at Mile One, to a point where the Herd next year, like naughty children, may have no one to play with.

West Coast president Gary Gale won't go so far as to say the Caribous will be given the heave-ho from his four-team setup, but he doesn't exactly provide Clarenville with a ringing endorsement, either.

"As a president, I've had to deal with typical things that come up ... controversies and the like," Gale said the other day. "But the biggest thing I've had to deal with lately was why didn't the west coast get any Herder games. And that was coming from fans and sponsors and the volunteers who are involved with hockey around here.

"And there's a case to be made (for the complainants), to be quite honest," he said. "It is a west coast team. If you want to play in our league, you should play your Herder games here."

You can understand the Caribous' decision to play at Mile One.

Have their fans drive two hours to St. John's, or the five or six to Corner Brook? A no-brainer.

But within the short-sighted world of Newfoundland hockey, the decision could cost the Caribous in a big way next year.

It wouldn't take much for the league to lay the boots to Clarenville. A simple motion by either Corner Brook or Deer Lake to put a boundary limit on the league - say Gander - would be all that's required, with a seconder.

Failing that, if the league was really determined to rid itself of Clarenville, it could dissolve the current operation and start a new one.

"The bottom line is we're a west coast league with an east coast team," Gale said.

So what about the Labatt Avalon East Senior Hockey League? Would it entertain the Caribous?

Don't bet on it.

There are some teams in the league - namely Torbay, Bell Island and Mount Pearl - that barely take in enough money to carry a decent stick budget. Adding a trip to Clarenville two or three times a year wouldn't exactly be greeted with glee.

In the Herder final, the Caribous were far superior to the C.B.N. CeeBee Stars, the class of the East league. Watching Clarenville toy with Bell Island, the Blades or Torbay every other night next winter would do little to enhance the league.

"And if they do come in," league president Joe Maynard said of the Caribous, "where do they get their players?

"There might have been one or two players from Clarenville on this year's team.

"The way our league is structured, players are property of senior teams - C.B.N. has (access) players from that area, same for Mount Pearl and Southern Shore, Torbay gets players from the St. John's junior team, Bell Island gets players from C.B.S.

"We have a non-import rule. The only way Clarenville could come in is if they get their players from the Clarenville/Bonavista area."

A decision on the Caribous' fate will come some time in late May or early June, when the west coast league gathers just before Hockey Newfoundland and Labrador's AGM.

Don't be surprised if the Caribous' Herder win, and big hee-haw at the Delta, might have been Clarenville's last hurrah.

Robin Short is The Telegram's Sports Editor. He can be reached by email at rshort@thetelegram.com




IN SHORT

Is there better gig in the world than that of a pro golfer? ... With 2009-10 promising to be another empty hockey season at Mile One, should management of the St. John's rink, Corner Brook`s Pepsi Centre and maybe the nice little rink in Gander, the Community Centre, sit down with Hockey Newfoundland and maybe put together some sort of blueprint for a new province-wide senior league? ... Not that senior hockey would draw fans to Mile One, except for maybe a couple hundred a game ... A return of the AHL to St. John's, remote as it is, could be possible if the economy continues to tank in the U.S. While major league sports will always attract sponsorship, the same cannot be said for minor pro sports. If the recession is hitting the NHL, NFL and Major League Baseball, you can bet it's hurting AHL teams ... Anybody wanna bet against the Vancouver Canucks going all the way to the Stanley Cup final? And the Washington Capitals in the east? ... With the Olympics and Stanley Cup scratched off my list of things to do, and riding a Harley through the Grand Canyon pending, next up is some day heading to Augusta National for the Masters, and taking in an English football game (don't care who's playing) ...

11/04/09  


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john from nl writes: The hockey people n the west coast have always complained about something.The st. john's caps are too strong...split them up or we won't play!!! They still brought in their imports while the Blue Caps and Shamrocks still won a Herder each. Why would you have two teams travel to Corner Brook to play. Hey if the west coast laegue has an import rule and no residency rule then why wouldn't Clarenville play in Mile one for the Herder....you mean that given the opportunity the Red wings wouldn't rather have the revenue from 6000 paying customers plus the 50/50 proceeds? By the way Clarenville were faster than Ceebees but not necessarily that much better. If the Ceebees had gotten just a little bit better goaltendeing they could be still playing this weekend. Not to knock Freddy Diamond...he may have become complacent playing in the east where his team dominates most nights. Back to the subject ...West coast league with three teams!!! I think not!!
Posted 11/04/2009 at 10:19 AM | Alert an Editor | Link to comment
Tony Park from Central NL, NL writes: So does Harbour Grace gets the boot from the AECSHL because they did not play in thier home town? Nope!

I guess the WCSHL is looking for an excuse to ditch Clarenville because of a no brainer decision to play 2 hours away rather than 5-6 hours..would it be different if they choose the largest venue in Corner Brook and made the fans travel 6 hours to keep it in the West?

Nice article to put a damper on the celebrations and joy brought to a small rural community in NL.

These rules should have been established prior to the league agreeing to let the Caribous play at Mile One Center!
Posted 11/04/2009 at 10:36 AM | Alert an Editor | Link to comment
Paul from CBN, NL writes: Very interesting article indeed! Geographically, it doesn't make sense for Clarenville to be part of a west coast league.

On the other hand, Clarenville is only two hours from the St. John's / Southern Shore area and only an hour and a half from the CBN area. That's not unreasonable.

Of course if the Caribous entered the Avalon East they would have to play by east rules. These include having the league take half the gate at home games and no imports. This would result in a very different team. No more paying players $300 or $400 a game because they won't get the same gate revenues and no more flying players in from the mainland. However, they could still have a competitive team, Clarenville and Bonavista are two large areas from which to draw players.

I still feel the Avalon East should have taken Clarenville a few years ago. Should make for an interesting off season!!
Posted 11/04/2009 at 1:27 PM | Alert an Editor | Link to comment
Todd from Clarenville, NL writes: I think all of this is bullshit, I can see that some people over the west coast is upset that they did not get to see any herder games, As the west champion you should be allowed to play where you wanna play as long as it is in a big stadium, The Caribous choose mile one because it was not a far drive for us the fans and what not, We don't wanna be driving 5-6 hours when we can drive 2 the most.
Posted 11/04/2009 at 6:11 PM | Alert an Editor | Link to comment
Clar from NL writes: How about this - if neither league will let Clarenville in, we'll just keep the trophy. Something tells me if we took the Herder hostage, we might get back in.

Man, the petty jealousy is just incredible. How about the West League agreed to rotate the location of the West representatives home games for each Herder? You mean to tell me that Deer Lake would drive to Grand Falls for their home games? Ha!!!!! A joke. Get over it.
Posted 11/04/2009 at 6:16 PM | Alert an Editor | Link to comment
Mike from NL writes: I've been to several NHL games and a few English Premiership games and there's no comparison betweent the two. For atmosphere and noise, the latter is much better than the former.
Posted 11/04/2009 at 6:30 PM | Alert an Editor | Link to comment
Tony from S'ville, NL writes: Give it up and rely on bingo or broomball for entertainment . The crying is getting on me nerves . Boot Clarenville out of the west division and thats the end of it . The only real hockey venue in the province is Mile One anyway , so if you want to raise money to pay imports , you cant be bawlin' about the availability to see games in your area . You're all treating this like a Pro league instead of what it really is , a bunch of second rate rejects from the OHL and Quebec junior leagues . Guys like Druken and Ryan and Langdon draw crowds because they've had a cup of coffee in the NHL . Get rid of all of the players who have played Mainland hockey and see who really gives a crap about who wins the Herder . Concentrate on promoting minor hockey and continue the task of getting kids ready for the big show . Thats where their future is , not playing in a Saturday / Sunday hockey league that Hayley Wickenheise would be a Star in .
Posted 11/04/2009 at 8:17 PM | Alert an Editor | Link to comment
wcshl fan from clarenville, nl writes: I can't believe this is happening. If the bous had lost too the wings we would not be having this conversation. All is wrong with the west coast fans they are sooky because we won the west and then we won the herder. I think the west coast league was very happy to have us join a few years back because of financial problems now that we are the best see ya later bous what a joke.
Posted 11/04/2009 at 10:41 PM | Alert an Editor | Link to comment
Scott.B from G.B, NL writes: Nice article, well put together. Sorry but it sounds like sour grapes to me. Heres how it looks to me. The Caribous played by the leagues rules and signed players and have the fan base willing to spend money to support their team. What would have happened if Clarenville had a bigger stadium like their going to have this upcoming season? If anyone from Deer Lake or Corner Brook wanted to see a game, they would have had to travel 5-6 hours to get there. I agree with john's post and that goaltending played the major difference in the herder finals. So if the WCSHL was going to have an issue with Clarenville playing in the mile one, (which was better for Clarenville fans and Cee Bees fans) then why did they not bring it up then. Having the Clarenville Caribous in the Senior league has exposed many to great hockey and it has increased the awareness and the interest in senior hockey in Newfoundland. It does not say much for Hockey in Newfoundland when a league would consider dumping one it's better teams because they are successful. Three cheers to common sense.
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